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 Post subject: Re: Easter Vigil
PostPosted: Sun Apr 08, 2012 10:36 am 
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Obi-Wan Kenobi wrote:
The rubrics in the new Missal are pretty insistent about using seven readings unless you have a really, really good reason not to.


We had 3 OT

3 Psalms

1 Epistle

Yep, that is 7!

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 Post subject: Re: Easter Vigil
PostPosted: Sun Apr 08, 2012 10:52 am 
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In the ancient Roman Rite there were 12 readings (all chanted). In between each was a "Let us pray, let us kneel, arise" and then a prayer, as well as a tract/gradual between most.

What is more, 12 readings were used in the same manner (with prayers in between) on all ember Saturdays. It was cut in the 6th century down to 6 readings in each, but by the time of the middle ages the other 6 were restored for Holy Saturday, though not for those other days. Also note the fire used to be lit every week, for practical reasons. Holy Saturday retains many archaisms that used to be common (such as, prior to 1970, having no Agnus Dei. That "innovation" after all was early 7th century!)

In 1955 they cut the readings down to just 4, cutting out the 2nd, 3rd, 5th, 6th, 7th, 9th, 10th, and 12th In the new rite they restored 3 of these.

Of course in the old rite this was not part of the Mass. The Mass itself is extremely short. Basically after you process in with the three candled reed (there was no procession with the paschal candle prior to 1955), sang the exultet (during which you blessed and lit the Paschal candle and Church), have the 12 (and later 4) Prophecies, blessing of the Easter Water, baptisms, confirmations, litany of the Saints (which was always done regardless of whether anyone was baptised) then you had the Mass itself begin. Everything prior was done in violet, the statutes still covered, with the exception that the deacon wore a white dalmatic when he carried the reed (later Paschal candle) and sang the exultet) afterwards he changed back to violet.

Then during the end of the litany of the Saints the ministers change vestments to white, the images are uncovered, and Mass is set up. They skip the opening prayers going straight to the Kyrie for the choir and incensing the altar for the priest. There is a very short epistle. When there is a bishop the deacon then goes to the bishop and says "Reverend Father, I bring you glad tidings it is the alleluia!" The bishop rises and chants alleluia once, the choir repeating in the same tone. He chants it again in a higher tone, the choir repeating, and finally once more in an even higher tone. Then the choir sings a tract just as they would during lent, without an alleluia, as, while Christ has resurrected, the news has not yet been spread. A short Gospel of finding the empty tomb is read. There is no Creed. They even cut the Offertory! And later on they cut out the Agnus Dei, the 1st prayer before communion (in the new rite a simplified version of this prayer is said before the kiss of peace) and the kiss of peace (as again the Good News has not yet been spread). And then after communion they insert an extremely short vespers (one psalm, and the Magnificat, without any chapter, verse or hymn- after 1955 this became Easter Lauds and they simply changed the psalm and do the Benedictus rather than the Magnificat). And the last Gospel is cut.

The Mass itself can be extremely short for a solemn Mass. But everything preceding? That is what took all day.

So, even though the priest gave a sermon for 30 minutes, my Mass was only 1hr and 15minutes...the services preceding it? 2 hours

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 Post subject: Re: Easter Vigil
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kage_ar wrote:
Obi-Wan Kenobi wrote:
The rubrics in the new Missal are pretty insistent about using seven readings unless you have a really, really good reason not to.


We had 3 OT

3 Psalms

1 Epistle

Yep, that is 7!


Not it is not. You have only 3 of the 7 readings. The 7 are all prophecies; the Epistle, Gospel, and graduals/responsorial psalms are different

If you have all 7 you would have had 7 psalms too :fyi:

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 Post subject: Re: Easter Vigil
PostPosted: Sun Apr 08, 2012 11:02 am 
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Solivagus in Mundi wrote:
kage_ar wrote:
Obi-Wan Kenobi wrote:
The rubrics in the new Missal are pretty insistent about using seven readings unless you have a really, really good reason not to.


We had 3 OT

3 Psalms

1 Epistle

Yep, that is 7!


Not it is not. You have only 3 of the 7 readings. The 7 are all prophecies; the Epistle, Gospel, and graduals/responsorial psalms are different

If you have all 7 you would have had 7 psalms too :fyi:


We had all. 7 Readings, Psalms after EACH reading, the Epistle, the Gospel... everything in the Missal was done at Mass. We had 1 infant baptism, 5 children and 1 adult (my husband)... so the litany of saints was sung.... absolutely beautiful!

Starting outside at 8:30pm and the closing blessing was a little after midnight. By the time we were out of the Church, greeted our fellow parishioners, etc, and arrived home it was about 1:30 (about a 15 minute drive from the Church).

It was a wonderful night. My 6 and 11 year old behaved themselves across the aisle in a separate pew! We'd look over at them and they were happily embraced reading from the Missal together.

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 Post subject: Re: Easter Vigil
PostPosted: Sun Apr 08, 2012 11:28 am 
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Solivagus in Mundi wrote:
kage_ar wrote:
Obi-Wan Kenobi wrote:
The rubrics in the new Missal are pretty insistent about using seven readings unless you have a really, really good reason not to.


We had 3 OT

3 Psalms

1 Epistle

Yep, that is 7!


Not it is not. You have only 3 of the 7 readings. The 7 are all prophecies; the Epistle, Gospel, and graduals/responsorial psalms are different

If you have all 7 you would have had 7 psalms too :fyi:


I was trying NEW MATH :wave

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