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 Post subject: Is This An Approved Devotion?
PostPosted: Fri Jan 23, 2009 3:22 pm 
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I received a prayer card yesterday that is taken from Devotion To The Most Precious Blood Of Our Lord Jesus Christ. Apparently there is a book by that title from what I can tell from the prayer card. Is this an approved devotion?


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 23, 2009 3:26 pm 
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I'm going to go out on a limb here and say I'd be surprised if it wasn't. Any publisher info?

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Queenship Publishing. I just checked their site and it is from a book. I didn't read all the details but it looks like a young man is claiming that this was given to him by Jesus.


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 23, 2009 3:32 pm 
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Does a devotion have to be approved?

I know that some have promises attached to the devotion and those must be approved... but if it's just a prayer to His Most Precious Blood, where's the harm?

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http://www.queenship.org/searchproducts.cfm
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"The Greatest Devotion of our Time, A Call to Holiness", this Devotion was given to a young man in Nigeria named Barnabas Nwoye. The Lord gave him the task of receiving and making known the Devotion to the Precious Blood. Queenship is very proud to be selected by the Apostolate to publish this book in America. The handbook of prayers and instructions was given by our Lord for you. Our Lord has lovingly left a great gift of protection, the gift of the Seal of the Living God, as seen in Revelations Chapter 7 and 14. The book includes the Chaplet of the Precious Blood (the Chaplet beads will be included with each book), Consolation and Adoration Prayers, The Anguished Appeals. There are also Sacramentals for the Devotion. The book has the Nihil Obstat and Imprimatur as it is approved by the Church as a true devotion

You'd have to get it or look at a preview to see which bishop issued it.

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 Post subject: Re: Is This An Approved Devotion?
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Certainly, a devotion to our Lord's Most Precious Blood has existed for a long time. The Catholic Cathedral for the Archdiocese of Westminster in England, for example, is dedicated to the Most Precious Blood, and in the old calendar, July 1 was the feast of the Most Precious Blood. Today, the feast once known as "the Body of Christ" (Corpus Christi) is the feast of the Body and Blood of Christ.

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me3rd wrote:
Does a devotion have to be approved?

I know that some have promises attached to the devotion and those must be approved... but if it's just a prayer to His Most Precious Blood, where's the harm?

What if I wrote a prayer on the back of a card with the picture of Our Lady on it that addresses the Virgin Mary as a Goddess? Anyone can write a prayer on the back of a card, that doesn't mean it's in line with Church teaching.

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 Post subject: Re: Is This An Approved Devotion?
PostPosted: Sat Jan 24, 2009 3:35 am 
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therev,

I moved your post to a new thread so that it could be seen and replied to more easily and so that this thread could continue on its subject.


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 Post subject: Re: Is This An Approved Devotion?
PostPosted: Mon Aug 10, 2009 12:55 am 
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A new bishop was installed in the relevant Diocese around Jan. 2009. I sent the following e-mail to check on the current attitude:

Most Rev. Dr. Callistus Chukwuma Onaga,
Bishop of Enugu,
Holy Ghost Cathedral,
Ogui, Enugu,
Enugu State, 400001,
Nigeria.
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August 4, 2009.

Your Excellency,

re: Alleged Private Revelations to Barnabas Nwoye and Consequent Devotions

Greetings from Australia. I am a parishioner in the Catholic Diocese of Ballarat, Victoria, Australia who has been given various material outlining the alleged revelations given to the above Barnabas Nwoye. There appears to be a small, but “busy” group in this Diocese who are disseminating this and other unapproved private revelations.

Frankly, I was sceptical regarding the material – but hasten to add that I accept most of those private revelations which have been approved by the appropriate Church authorities as being “worthy of credence.”

Further investigations led me to an evaluation of Barnabas Nwoye’s private revelations by Mr Ronald Conte, Jnr – an American, who claims a bachelor's degree in philsophy/theology from Boston College and whose evaluation “Claims of Private Revelation: True or False? An Evaluation of the messages to Barnabas Nwoye” is attached hereto in “WORD” format.

His evaluation examines the following points:

1. The false claim that the Antichrist is in the world today and that he will reign during this generation.

2. The false claim that the Antichrist will take the highest seat in the Church [i.e. become Pope]

3. The false claim that the only way to be protected from the Antichrist is by following the devotions offered in the messages to Barnabas Nwoye

4. Specifics About The Seal

5. Devotion to the so-called Archangel Uriel

6. Promotes a baptism after death for aborted babies

7. Worldly language

8. Are indulgences granted through claimed private revelation?

9. The claim that Jesus and Mary still suffer and need consolation

10. Exaggerated Claims

11. Altered and Distorted Devotions

The Crucifix of Jesus Christ

and A List of the Many Devotions

12. The Glorious Reign has begun?

and concludes:

“There are very many false private revelations which make similar claims to this one, saying that the Antichrist is in the world, and that the only hope lies in one particular private revelation and its novelties. But the false private revelation to Barnabas distinguishes itself in disgrace, above many of the others, by taking good and holy devotions, including those to the Precious Blood and the Crucifix, and distorting these for the purpose of exalting a claimed private revelation. The errors in the messages to Barnabas are numerous and severe. Therefore, I conclude that the claimed private revelation to Barnabas Nwoye is false and is not from Heaven.”

I am aware that an Imprimatur was apparently given by your predecessor, and I am also aware that Imprimaturs do not imply that the giver of the Imprimatur necessarily agrees with the content. I also am aware that higher authority may order the removal of an imprimatur – such as in the case of the Vatican overruling the 1994 decision of the English Bishop Peter Smith. (See “Vatican orders bishop to remove imprimatur” at http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_1 ... _20358695/ ).

I would be grateful if you could advise the current situation under your new leadership in the light of Mr Conte’s evaluation.

With kind regards and God bless,


F. John Loughnan
41/18 Cooinda Drive
Delacombe, Vic. 3356
Australia
03 5335 1941
jloughnan@hotmail.com


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 Post subject: Re: Is This An Approved Devotion?
PostPosted: Mon Aug 10, 2009 5:23 am 
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The idea that the Pope would be the anti-christ makes it false. The worst case senerio would be the false Prophet of Rev 13:11 would be an anti-pope. Not the real Pope. The false Prophet will lead the world to the anti-christ (first beast) who could not be the Pope because an anti-pope would try to steal the lawful authority of the true Pope. The anti-christ will be a political leader with Jewish roots.

St. John warns that there are many anti-christs that has come, those who have fallen from the Catholic Faith (1 John 2:18-20).

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 Post subject: Re: Is This An Approved Devotion?
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Bombadil wrote:
http://www.queenship.org/searchproducts.cfm
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"The Greatest Devotion of our Time, A Call to Holiness", this Devotion was given to a young man in Nigeria named Barnabas Nwoye. ...
Our Lord has lovingly left a great gift of protection, the gift of the Seal of the Living God, as seen in Revelations Chapter 7 and 14.
...

You'd have to get it or look at a preview to see which bishop issued it.
My rule of thumb is that any document which uses the plural Revelations for the book of the Bible is obviously false and not worth further consideration.

(I checked the website which Bombadil gave and he indeed correctly gave the Queenship publisher text and did not accidentally insert the error himself.)


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 Post subject: Re: Is This An Approved Devotion?
PostPosted: Mon Aug 10, 2009 6:48 am 
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Here is a site that has the Litany of the Precious Blood of Jesus:

http://www.ewtn.com/Devotionals/Litanies/blood.htm


It isn't necessary to get involved with the confusing claims of some private revelation to have devotion to the Precious Blood.


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 Post subject: Re: Is This An Approved Devotion?
PostPosted: Mon Aug 10, 2009 9:32 am 
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Justin86 wrote:
What if I wrote a prayer on the back of a card with the picture of Our Lady on it that addresses the Virgin Mary as a Goddess?


Someone else already beat you to it - Army of Mary, they were excommunicated a couple of years ago. :fyi:

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