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 Post subject: Hello i am a Lutheran
PostPosted: Thu Dec 08, 2011 8:26 am 
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As you can see, i am a Lutheran. I have been in contact with Ray. But i still have so many questions to ask. So, would it be beneficial to get a catechism to find my answers to the Catholic faith.
I am trying to learn and understand it and find it very overwhelming. I don't know if the local parish has time for me to come and ask and ask. So what to do.
My questions are your typical, why all this Mary stuff? Why do you pray the Rosary? Etc.....
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We are here to help you find answers to your questions. You'll probably find many of the answers you seek by reading previous threads on those topics in the Catholicism forums, but do feel free to add your own thoughts and questions.

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 Post subject: Re: Hello i am a Lutheran
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According to the following link, Martin Luther had devotion to Mary:

http://www.catholicculture.org/culture/ ... cfm?id=788

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welcome to our slice of cyberspace mattman... there are many on this board who will be able to answer any question you have...and like sig says....it's probably been asked and answered many times already ... enjoy your stay :wave

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Welcome mattman! :wave Lots of people here to help answer your questions. Until you get your own copy of the Catechism of the Catholic Church, (CCC), here it is on-line!

http://www.vatican.va/archive/ENG0015/_INDEX.HTM :incense

It's an easy 'click and read' by subject.

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did you forget about the link to the compendium :?:

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:wave Hi, mattman! Welcome to the board.

Reading the Catholic Catechism would be great, but feel free to ask your questions here in the Catholicism 101 forum.

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faithfulservant wrote:
did you forget about the link to the compendium :?:


Here's the link to the Compendium of the Catechism:

http://www.vatican.va/archive/compendiu ... cc_en.html

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Well met and feel free to ask whatever, we are all learning still and suspect however long one is a Catholic one always will be.

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lbt wrote:
faithfulservant wrote:
did you forget about the link to the compendium :?:


Here's the link to the Compendium of the Catechism:

http://www.vatican.va/archive/compendiu ... cc_en.html

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 Post subject: Re: Hello i am a Lutheran
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Howdy!

I was thinking about your post this morning and thought of something to say. My wife was Lutheran and converted. Lutherans have more religion than most Protestants, but Catholics still have a lot more religion than Lutherans.

Sometimes I have trouble figuring out how to say what I intend to mean, so try to make it through this next sentence. ::): Instead of thinking that you believe a certain, let's say, 10 things and since we believe X things which are different, that therefore our different beliefs supplant your beliefs in comparison, generally they are in addition to the other beliefs. Mostly we believe in a lot of things that have been taught over the millenia that you don't. As I've heard it said before; Protestantism is a sliding scale of disbelief. Lutherans are further up the scale than say, Cowboy Churchers or Nondenominationalists. Wow that one is a mouthful! Can't even hardly read it.

I generally find that Protestants seem to get tangled up on one or two issues, usually the exact ones you just mentioned- reverence towards St. Mary and praying the rosary, I suggest you find an answer to those questions and move on to other issues. There's just so much more. We have a culture of prayer that you may not see otherwise, and those two aspects are merely the tip of the iceberg. We have thousands of devotions, prayers, *systems* of prayer like the rosary, sacramentals, fasting, all sorts of things that people are free to choose from to find the sort of prayer that helps them worship God in the best way for them.

I only had one thing to say. Sorry it took so long.

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 Post subject: Re: Hello i am a Lutheran
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Bombadil wrote:
Howdy!

I was thinking about your post this morning and thought of something to say. My wife was Lutheran and converted. Lutherans have more religion than most Protestants, but Catholics still have a lot more religion than Lutherans.

Sometimes I have trouble figuring out how to say what I intend to mean, so try to make it through this next sentence. ::): Instead of thinking that you believe a certain, let's say, 10 things and since we believe X things which are different, that therefore our different beliefs supplant your beliefs in comparison, generally they are in addition to the other beliefs. Mostly we believe in a lot of things that have been taught over the millenia that you don't. As I've heard it said before; Protestantism is a sliding scale of disbelief. Lutherans are further up the scale than say, Cowboy Churchers or Nondenominationalists. Wow that one is a mouthful! Can't even hardly read it.
Thank you for your advice. Ok so let's start with the biggest issue and work my way through it. Let's talk about Mary. Is this something I need to work one on one with someone to get the proper understandings? Or is there a good book with lots of references to follow? You have to understand that sew are told to use the Bible as our map, so for now could you entertain me and show me Bible references. Thank you.
I am taking a leap in faith this week, I won't to visit the local Eucuristic Adoration, at our local Catholic Church. I thought maybe I can go there and sit and pray and ask God to show me his ways. Do you think that's ok for a non Catholic to do?
Thanks
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I generally find that Protestants seem to get tangled up on one or two issues, usually the exact ones you just mentioned- reverence towards St. Mary and praying the rosary, I suggest you find an answer to those questions and move on to other issues. There's just so much more. We have a culture of prayer that you may not see otherwise, and those two aspects are merely the tip of the iceberg. We have thousands of devotions, prayers, *systems* of prayer like the rosary, sacramentals, fasting, all sorts of things that people are free to choose from to find the sort of prayer that helps them worship God in the best way for them.

I only had one thing to say. Sorry it took so long.


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 Post subject: Re: Hello i am a Lutheran
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I cleared this up so people can read it better. I can't get to any answers right now, maybe next week. Sorry. There is a sticky about using the quote function somewhere if you want to look at it.
Bombadil wrote:
Howdy!

I was thinking about your post this morning and thought of something to say. My wife was Lutheran and converted. Lutherans have more religion than most Protestants, but Catholics still have a lot more religion than Lutherans.

Sometimes I have trouble figuring out how to say what I intend to mean, so try to make it through this next sentence. ::): Instead of thinking that you believe a certain, let's say, 10 things and since we believe X things which are different, that therefore our different beliefs supplant your beliefs in comparison, generally they are in addition to the other beliefs. Mostly we believe in a lot of things that have been taught over the millenia that you don't. As I've heard it said before; Protestantism is a sliding scale of disbelief. Lutherans are further up the scale than say, Cowboy Churchers or Nondenominationalists. Wow that one is a mouthful! Can't even hardly read it.


The Mattman wrote:

Thank you for your advice. Ok so let's start with the biggest issue and work my way through it. Let's talk about Mary. Is this something I need to work one on one with someone to get the proper understandings? Or is there a good book with lots of references to follow? You have to understand that sew are told to use the Bible as our map, so for now could you entertain me and show me Bible references. Thank you.
I am taking a leap in faith this week, I won't to visit the local Eucuristic Adoration, at our local Catholic Church. I thought maybe I can go there and sit and pray and ask God to show me his ways. Do you think that's ok for a non Catholic to do?
Thanks
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 Post subject: Re: Hello i am a Lutheran
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mattman -- You should start with a simpler catechism than the CCC. Something like the Baltimore Catechism. Gives you more of a synopsis of the holy Catholic Religion.

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mattman, there are many books about our Blessed Mother...the one of which i thought most highly was scott hahn's "Hail Holy Queen"

much in the way of scriptural reference in that one.... but here is another site that lends scriptural credence to our Lady

http://www.scripturecatholic.com/blesse ... _mary.html

also, as best i can tell, as has already been pointed out...luther had no problem with any of the teachings and beliefs we hold as Catholicsconcerning Mary

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faithfulservant wrote:
mattman, there are many books about our Blessed Mother...the one of which i thought most highly was scott hahn's "Hail Holy Queen"

much in the way of scriptural reference in that one.... but here is another site that lends scriptural credence to our Lady

http://www.scripturecatholic.com/blesse ... _mary.html

also, as best i can tell, as has already been pointed out...luther had no problem with any of the teachings and beliefs we hold as Catholicsconcerning Mary


Mother of the Redeemer, by Pope John Paul II is also a good read.

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