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Yep. Makes the dull house wife's life glow.

But a midwestern popularity alone couldn't account for the (50+, was it?) hard back printings it went through. Must be house wifes with dull lives all over the country.

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While I can't imagine why it would be popular, say, in New England, I imagine that the appeal of the book in the South is very similar to its appeal in the midwest. Southerners, I think, are also rather irritated at the fact that their way of life is constantly belittled in the mainstream media. And while the South is not the Midwest, I think that 'life in a small, rural community' is basically the same wherever you are. As amazing as it may seem to liberal elites, the truth is that many people actually LIKE living in a small, rural community, and don't find it 'repressive' or 'backwards' at all.


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Exactly Doom!!


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As one with about 11 years experience in the book selling business, I can concur with the last sentence. I used to marvel at the number of printings that THE BRIDGES OF MADISON COUNTY went through in hardback, before the demand softened enough too cause a paperback edition. You'll never go broke underestimating the reading public, apparently.

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I have never read 'The Bridges of Madison County', but I once lived in the part of the country where it takes place, so I can tell you that the main reason it was popular in the midwestern United States is because people were overjoyed to see their region of the country portrayed in a major novel, and portrayed accurately and honestly, that makes midwesterners look like normal human beings and not just dumb hicks, as is the normal cliche. That is one of those books that makes it seem 'romantic' to have an adulterous affair, right?


Yep. Makes the dull house wife's life glow.

But a midwestern popularity alone couldn't account for the (50+, was it?) hard back printings it went through. Must be house wifes with dull lives all over the country.

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Um...*cough, cough*...speaking on behalf of the numerous SAHM (Stay at Home Moms), those who do and don't homeschool, "housewife" is a very disparaging term. They're not married to the HOUSE, are they? No. I don't think so. Not any more than a "fireman" is a man on fire, as opposed to someone who fights fire - therefore, he - or she - would correctly be a "firefighter." It never ceases to amaze how far we, as a society, have gotten from proper English syntax.

GKC: The grammatically correct term for what you describe is a HOMEMAKER.

[End of thread hijacking...on with the regularly scheduled thread...]


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As one with about 11 years experience in the book selling business, I can concur with the last sentence. I used to marvel at the number of printings that THE BRIDGES OF MADISON COUNTY went through in hardback, before the demand softened enough too cause a paperback edition. You'll never go broke underestimating the reading public, apparently.

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I have never read 'The Bridges of Madison County', but I once lived in the part of the country where it takes place, so I can tell you that the main reason it was popular in the midwestern United States is because people were overjoyed to see their region of the country portrayed in a major novel, and portrayed accurately and honestly, that makes midwesterners look like normal human beings and not just dumb hicks, as is the normal cliche. That is one of those books that makes it seem 'romantic' to have an adulterous affair, right?


Yep. Makes the dull house wife's life glow.

But a midwestern popularity alone couldn't account for the (50+, was it?) hard back printings it went through. Must be house wifes with dull lives all over the country.

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Um...*cough, cough*...speaking on behalf of the numerous SAHM (Stay at Home Moms), those who do and don't homeschool, "housewife" is a very disparaging term. They're not married to the HOUSE, are they? No. I don't think so. Not any more than a "fireman" is a man on fire, as opposed to someone who fights fire - therefore, he - or she - would correctly be a "firefighter." It never ceases to amaze how far we, as a society, have gotten from proper English syntax.

GKC: The grammatically correct term for what you describe is a HOMEMAKER.

[End of thread hijacking...on with the regularly scheduled thread...]


No, that would be the politically correct term for it. As also for your other examples. A housewife is the female head of a household, per common English usage prior to the current degenerate days; the "disparaging" exists only in the eyes of certain persons. It never ceases to amaze me how easily society (or some portions thereof) can cave to linquistic cranks. I well recall back in my Air Force days, many years ago, when the term "Airman" as the generic appellation for enlisted troops, was banned. We tried "Airperson", but it was not well received. My choice was "Airentity".

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About 5 or 6 years ago there was a whole spate of what I call spi-fi movies(spiritual fiction, that is). I was burnt out 30 minutes into the first one but watched most of 'em I guess. Don't plan on seeing anymore.

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I saw the book in my school library! :shock: I felt like burning it or throwing it in the bin :)! But its a library book so... :P

A few friends of mine read The Davinci code and a few other Dan Brown books and they said a lot of his writings is anti-catholic, but they don't mind because it is fiction.

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I find it funny that many Davinci Code fans critisize orthodox catholics who have not read the book. But these same people have not read all the gospels in their entirity to and Davinci Code rebuttal book to give the orthodox version a fair shake.
Rahter they will buy more Dan Brown books like Angels and Demons or more consipircay and the catholic church books and of course read the gnostic gospels instead of the known gospels. I know to much about actual church history to be entertained by the Davinci Code tripe. I suppose it your ingorant of church history this might put togetehr things for you that you always wondered about. But instead of doing the hardwork of actually reading church history like Eusebius and the apostolic fathers etc why not read a work of fiction that will tell it in an entertaining way? We are living in the age of the historically illiteral and gullible.

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I saw the book in my school library! :shock: I felt like burning it or throwing it in the bin :)! But its a library book so... :P

A few friends of mine read The Davinci code and a few other Dan Brown books and they said a lot of his writings is anti-catholic, but they don't mind because it is fiction.

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I guess they wouldn't mind Jack Chick tracts because although they are anti-catholic they are work of fiction as well.
Your friends are missing a lightbulb.

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I read it. It was an "ok" read. It's the promotion and the publicity of the book that has teed me off. The book is often not found in "fiction" in the bookstore but in the religion section for one thing.I have pointed out to people that it is fiction and they are surprised by this.

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I'm reading the book just now. I don't have a problem with reading the book - my opinion is that the whole book is just a cock-and-bull story. The bad thing is that D. Brown is injuring the Catholic faith all the time. It hurts me, though I'm not a Catholic.

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no the most disturbing thing about this book is the fact that it is actually SUCCESSFUL, that so many people could actually like such a poorly written book full of cliches and errors.

EXACTLY!

I read it, more for a "okay let's see what's going on" kind of thing.

My thought: This is the kind of crap that impresses todays readers???? we have become amazingly dull, if that is the case.

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I'm reading the book just now. I don't have a problem with reading the book - my opinion is that the whole book is just a cock-and-bull story. The bad thing is that D. Brown is injuring the Catholic faith all the time. It hurts me, though I'm not a Catholic.


It's more than hurting the Catholic faith. It's the CHRISTIAN faith.

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I'm reading the book just now. I don't have a problem with reading the book - my opinion is that the whole book is just a cock-and-bull story. The bad thing is that D. Brown is injuring the Catholic faith all the time. It hurts me, though I'm not a Catholic.


It's more than hurting the Catholic faith. It's the CHRISTIAN faith.

:whoops Yes, you're correct, Seatuck. The book is really hurting absolutely all Christian faith - your faith as a Catholic, my faith as an Orthodox etc.

My point of view was that the iniquity against Catholic faith was the assault against Opus Dei, Catholic Priests and Bishops etc.

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The key thing to remember is that the book is **fiction**. There have been plenty of novels written about all kinds of subjects that didn't have a shred of truth to them. Nothing is going to happen to Christianity because of the Da Vinci Code. Have a little more faith. This book will be forgotten in a couple of years.


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The key thing to remember is that the book is **fiction**. There have been plenty of novels written about all kinds of subjects that didn't have a shred of truth to them. Nothing is going to happen to Christianity because of the Da Vinci Code. Have a little more faith. This book will be forgotten in a couple of years.


I think the problem isn't the book itself, but the fact that many people are decieved into thinking (or stupid enough) that the book is actually truth. They do not see that it is fiction.


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The key thing to remember is that the book is **fiction**. There have been plenty of novels written about all kinds of subjects that didn't have a shred of truth to them. Nothing is going to happen to Christianity because of the Da Vinci Code. Have a little more faith. This book will be forgotten in a couple of years.


I think the problem isn't the book itself, but the fact that many people are decieved into thinking (or stupid enough) that the book is actually truth. They do not see that it is fiction.


Secondly, Our Lord Jesus Christ did not become incarnate for people to make up blasphemous stories about Him. It is highly insulting to Him.

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The key thing to remember is that the book is **fiction**. There have been plenty of novels written about all kinds of subjects that didn't have a shred of truth to them. Nothing is going to happen to Christianity because of the Da Vinci Code. Have a little more faith. This book will be forgotten in a couple of years.


I think the problem isn't the book itself, but the fact that many people are decieved into thinking (or stupid enough) that the book is actually truth. They do not see that it is fiction.


Secondly, Our Lord Jesus Christ did not become incarnate for people to make up blasphemous stories about Him. It is highly insulting to Him.


yes, that too.

oops, forgot that part. its an important one! :oops:


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Mrs.Escandon wrote:
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The key thing to remember is that the book is **fiction**. There have been plenty of novels written about all kinds of subjects that didn't have a shred of truth to them. Nothing is going to happen to Christianity because of the Da Vinci Code. Have a little more faith. This book will be forgotten in a couple of years.


I think the problem isn't the book itself, but the fact that many people are decieved into thinking (or stupid enough) that the book is actually truth. They do not see that it is fiction.


Secondly, Our Lord Jesus Christ did not become incarnate for people to make up blasphemous stories about Him. It is highly insulting to Him.


yes, that too.

oops, forgot that part. its an important one! :oops:


Well I was just adding to what you said, and not trying to correct you or anything :)

I think some people overlook the fact that because this author has chosen to use real people as characters, such as Our Lord, it is not "just fiction"

If someone wrote a novel and used Steve Ray as the main character, I think Steve would have every reason to get upset if he was portrayed as womanizing drug addict who steals from everyone. Yet as bad as the attacks on Opus Dei here might be, I think the blasphemous use of Our Lord's Person in this book is reprehensible and terrible. :(

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I know that it is a work of fiction, and that many Catholics feel that it bashes the church. However, I am feeling a curiosity to read it for myself. I feel secure enough in my Christianity and knowledge of church history to understand that this is not the truth.

Has anyone read the book? What did you think? Will you see the movie?


Fr. Groeschel suggests that if you read the book, you also have to do penance by reading one of the Gospels. And if you see the movie, then read all 4.

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Fr. Groeschel suggests that if you read the book, you also have to do penance by reading one of the Gospels. And if you see the movie, then read all 4.


hard to argue with that suggestion 8-)

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