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 Post subject: Re: Sci-fi
PostPosted: Sun Apr 22, 2012 6:23 am 
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Norton and Vance are superb. GKC


I have made a decision. I like you, friend.



I missed this.

I like you too.

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 Post subject: Re: Sci-fi
PostPosted: Fri Apr 05, 2013 8:08 am 
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GKC, what do you think of David Weber's Honorverse collaborations with Eric Flint? I started reading Crown of Slaves some time ago and had a lot of difficulty in getting through it. I don't mind intrigue but it seems unduly focused on the sex lives of the characters, who is seducing whom, etc. In fact I had trouble recognizing Weber at all in the work -- even different terms are used for some concepts (for example, the term "contra-grav" is used rather than Weber's usual term, "counter-grav"). I don't mean to nitpick, of course -- for me it is just evidence that Weber had little to do with the book except provide Flint with some ideas.


I am a fanatic on all the Honorverse, and certainly accept the portions that Flint contributed as canonical. I am also quite grateful to Flint for causing David to extend the time line by at least two books, past the point he had decided to make the climax, in order to accommodate stuff that Eric had written, that messed up his planned schedule. I just bought RISING THUNDER, and have only one more book before Something Awful Happens.

I note the difference in style and emphasis, in CROWN OF SLAVES and TORCH OF FREEDOM, emphasis on certain characters, MANPOWER, the Ballroom, etc. Doesn't bother me at all. I am caught in the flow, and highly unlikely to catch contra or counter. Memory isn't that good. But it is as likely that Eric gives David ideas as the other way. Certainly he did, when he forced the time line shift.

My wife, more the extremist on Honor than I am, makes no distinction between Weber and Flint, reads all, demands more.

Just wanted to let you know, I read Torch of Freedom and found it much more enjoyable than Crown of Slaves (which as I noted I could not even get through the first few chapters).

Yes, I think Something Awful will happen, or start to happen, in whatever book follows Shadow of Freedom. It could be a while though ... I imagine that the next Weber/Flint collaboration will come first and that probably won't be out until next year.

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 Post subject: Re: Sci-fi
PostPosted: Fri Apr 05, 2013 10:36 am 
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Bagheera wrote:
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GKC, what do you think of David Weber's Honorverse collaborations with Eric Flint? I started reading Crown of Slaves some time ago and had a lot of difficulty in getting through it. I don't mind intrigue but it seems unduly focused on the sex lives of the characters, who is seducing whom, etc. In fact I had trouble recognizing Weber at all in the work -- even different terms are used for some concepts (for example, the term "contra-grav" is used rather than Weber's usual term, "counter-grav"). I don't mean to nitpick, of course -- for me it is just evidence that Weber had little to do with the book except provide Flint with some ideas.


I am a fanatic on all the Honorverse, and certainly accept the portions that Flint contributed as canonical. I am also quite grateful to Flint for causing David to extend the time line by at least two books, past the point he had decided to make the climax, in order to accommodate stuff that Eric had written, that messed up his planned schedule. I just bought RISING THUNDER, and have only one more book before Something Awful Happens.

I note the difference in style and emphasis, in CROWN OF SLAVES and TORCH OF FREEDOM, emphasis on certain characters, MANPOWER, the Ballroom, etc. Doesn't bother me at all. I am caught in the flow, and highly unlikely to catch contra or counter. Memory isn't that good. But it is as likely that Eric gives David ideas as the other way. Certainly he did, when he forced the time line shift.

My wife, more the extremist on Honor than I am, makes no distinction between Weber and Flint, reads all, demands more.


Just wanted to let you know, I read Torch of Freedom and found it much more enjoyable than Crown of Slaves (which as I noted I could not even get through the first few chapters).

Yes, I think Something Awful will happen, or start to happen, in whatever book follows Shadow of Freedom. It could be a while though ... I imagine that the next Weber/Flint collaboration will come first and that probably won't be out until next year.



Can ask him next time I see him. Last time was in June last year. Next time, no idea. But he warned me, long, long ago that it might not end "well".

I have A RISING THUNDER and SHADOWS OF FREEDOM. Haven't read either. Fear starting Something Awful happening.

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 Post subject: Re: Sci-fi
PostPosted: Fri Apr 05, 2013 8:51 pm 
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I have A RISING THUNDER and SHADOWS OF FREEDOM. Haven't read either. Fear starting Something Awful happening.

Without revealing too much, I would say rather that the stage is being set for Something Awful happening. Lots of fun intrigue though.

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 Post subject: Re: Sci-fi
PostPosted: Sat Apr 06, 2013 6:47 am 
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Bagheera wrote:
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I have A RISING THUNDER and SHADOWS OF FREEDOM. Haven't read either. Fear starting Something Awful happening.

Without revealing too much, I would say rather that the stage is being set for Something Awful happening. Lots of fun intrigue though.


Fun Intrigue is David's middle name. Along with Inventing New Methods of Mass Destruction in Space.


I'll get to those two soon. But I'm hooked on Dewey Lambdin's Alan Lewrie fighting sail books right now. Got 2 more on hand to get through.

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 Post subject: Re: Sci-fi
PostPosted: Mon May 06, 2013 11:30 am 
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I know it's a book thread, but for anyone who hasn't seen it yet I would highly recommend the film, 'Moon,' staring Sam Rockwell and directed by David Bowie's son Duncan Jones. One of the best Sci Fi films I've seen in recent years.

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 Post subject: Re: Sci-fi
PostPosted: Mon May 06, 2013 8:28 pm 
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Another mention of Asimov here. "I, Robot" is awesome.

Has anyone read C.S. Lewis' space trilogy? It's quite good.

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 Post subject: Re: Sci-fi
PostPosted: Mon May 06, 2013 8:40 pm 
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Another mention of Asimov here. "I, Robot" is awesome.

Has anyone read C.S. Lewis' space trilogy? It's quite good.


Yup, I think most everyone on this thread has read that trilogy.

I'm working through Neil Asher's Gridlinked. I have to say not as interesting as I expected, but okay.
I'm almost through my list of Cyberpunk and I'm starting to get bored with most of the themes. Any minute now and I'll start reading some Pat Cadigan just for a change of pace, even though she makes me nuts.

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