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http://www.amazon.com/Evangelical-Catho ... 255&sr=1-2


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Vincenzo wrote:
http://www.amazon.com/Evangelical-Catholicism-Reform-21st-Century-Church/dp/0465027687/ref=la_B001IU2K72_1_2?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1389194255&sr=1-2



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Me too. I haven't read anything by him. I thought maybe someone else would be familiar. Oh well.


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Vincenzo wrote:
Me too. I haven't read anything by him. I thought maybe someone else would be familiar. Oh well.



Patience. Maybe someone has an opinion.

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I don't plan to read it. I am just not fond of Weigel. I don't think he's a heretic or any other sort of name calling thing. I'm just not fond of him, and I'll leave it at that.

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Thanks for the input. Some folks at the archdiocese suggested it, and was giving him high praise, but I hesitated after reading the summary. Usually I don't hesitate to check out a book they suggest.


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It's not going to hurt you. It's just one of the latest fad Church books, and I usually don't like and do avoid fad Church books.

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Yeah. I'm actually more in the mood for some writings of the early church fathers, or something along those lines.


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I thought his biography of John Paul II was excellent.....but that's en entirely different type of book.

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Well, there you are.

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So I take it you missed the extended 20-30 page discussion of this book that we had here last year?

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Doom wrote:
So I take it you missed the extended 20-30 page discussion of this book that we had here last year?



I did. Though I thought his name his named looked familiar and dubious.

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 Post subject: Re: Yay or Nay?
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George Wiegel is a prominent Catholic laymen and author, frequently interviewed on EWTN, his 1998 biography of John Paul II is regarded as the definitive one....and after John Paul II died he wrote a sequel that covered the remainder of the Pope's life from 1998-2005, and he has written a biography of Pope Benedict, and I believe it has been said he is working on a biography of Pope Francis....his Papal biographies are comprehensive but tend to be laudatory, and I doubt any professional historian would consider them to be critical biographies, in the sense that historians use the term

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Doom wrote:
George Wiegel is a prominent Catholic laymen and author, frequently interviewed on EWTN, his 1998 biography of John Paul II is regarded as the definitive one....and after John Paul II died he wrote a sequel that covered the remainder of the Pope's life from 1998-2005, and he has written a biography of Pope Benedict, and I believe it has been said he is working on a biography of Pope Francis....his Papal biographies are comprehensive but tend to be laudatory, and I doubt any professional historian would consider them to be critical biographies, in the sense that historians use the term



I knew his name primarily from his bio of JPII. Which I sold, in the old days when I worked.

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For those who like labels, he's considered a neo-con, and one of the criticisms of his JP II biography is that he tries to cram JP II into a neo-con box.

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 Post subject: Re: Yay or Nay?
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The biggest problem with Wiegel's biography is that it is far too laudatory to the point of being flat out sycophantic.....Wiegel wants to paint everything the late Pope as the greatest that anyone had ever done before him....he didn't just write encyclicals, he wrote the greatest and wisest and most theologically deep encyclicals ever written...he wasn't just a theologian he was the greatest theologian in the history of the Papacy, on par with Leo the Great and Gregory the Great etc......it gets a little tiresome after a while.

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