Haparker321 Scripture Question

Servant of Guadalupe · **Posted:** Sun Feb 26, 2012 10:26 pm

This is the real crux of the whole argument of Catholicism vs Protestantism.

1- Why on earth would you grant any authority to a collection of books that the Catholic Church compiled?

2- Why would you take the holy book that one religion created, and then use that book to create a new religion?

3- What makes you think that some religion that cannot possibly be older than the 16th century can better interpret the book of a Church that was born in the first century?

It is a historical fact that the Bible is a book that the Catholic Church put together. This is FACT. So:

4- If you believe in the Bible, why do you personally and actively oppose the organization that produced it?

Thank you in advance for your answers.

Calvinist · **Posted:** Mon Feb 27, 2012 8:53 am

Servant of Guadalupe wrote:

This is the real crux of the whole argument of Catholicism vs Protestantism.

1- Why on earth would you grant any authority to a collection of books that the Catholic Church compiled?

2- Why would you take the holy book that one religion created, and then use that book to create a new religion?

3- What makes you think that some religion that cannot possibly be older than the 16th century can better interpret the book of a Church that was born in the first century?

It is a historical fact that the Bible is a book that the Catholic Church put together. This is FACT. So:

4- If you believe in the Bible, why do you personally and actively oppose the organization that produced it?

Thank you in advance for your answers.

What makes you think that an organization cannot go wrong, despite every evidence to the contrary? Just read the scripture...it doesn't take a great theologian to realize there are some contradictions and that the catholic church teaches contrary doctrines.

Servant of Guadalupe · **Posted:** Mon Feb 27, 2012 8:57 am

Calvinist wrote:

Servant of Guadalupe wrote:

This is the real crux of the whole argument of Catholicism vs Protestantism.

1- Why on earth would you grant any authority to a collection of books that the Catholic Church compiled?

2- Why would you take the holy book that one religion created, and then use that book to create a new religion?

3- What makes you think that some religion that cannot possibly be older than the 16th century can better interpret the book of a Church that was born in the first century?

It is a historical fact that the Bible is a book that the Catholic Church put together. This is FACT. So:

4- If you believe in the Bible, why do you personally and actively oppose the organization that produced it?

Thank you in advance for your answers.

What makes you think that an organization cannot go wrong, despite every evidence to the contrary? Just read the scripture...it doesn't take a great theologian to realize there are some contradictions and that the catholic church teaches contrary doctrines.

Well, if we are using the Bible this quote would make Jesus a false prophet or a liar:

And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it. Matt. 16:18

Your statement implies that the Church Jesus founded went astray. I must get offline now, but will continue in 2 days.

Gracie2004 · **Posted:** Mon Feb 27, 2012 6:45 pm

Calvinist wrote:

Servant of Guadalupe wrote:

This is the real crux of the whole argument of Catholicism vs Protestantism.

1- Why on earth would you grant any authority to a collection of books that the Catholic Church compiled?

2- Why would you take the holy book that one religion created, and then use that book to create a new religion?

3- What makes you think that some religion that cannot possibly be older than the 16th century can better interpret the book of a Church that was born in the first century?

It is a historical fact that the Bible is a book that the Catholic Church put together. This is FACT. So:

4- If you believe in the Bible, why do you personally and actively oppose the organization that produced it?

Thank you in advance for your answers.

What makes you think that an organization cannot go wrong, despite every evidence to the contrary? Just read the scripture...it doesn't take a great theologian to realize there are some contradictions and that the catholic church teaches contrary doctrines.

"...and the gates of Hades will not prevail against it." If you think it can go wrong, then you think Christ lied. Pretty simple.

Kotton · **Posted:** Mon Feb 27, 2012 8:01 pm

Calvinist wrote:

What makes you think that an organization cannot go wrong, despite every evidence to the contrary?

Because the organization was established by Jesus Christ, and He would always be with it, the Holy Spirit would guide. Therefore, as others said, if it failed, Jesus lied, and God does not lie. Now as to evidence to the contrary, that is your opinion. If you want to say individuals errored or taught contrary, we call those persons heretics.

Quote:

Just read the scripture...it doesn't take a great theologian to realize there are some contradictions and that the catholic church teaches contrary doctrines.

The Catholic Church only teaches contrary to your opinion, your translation, your interpetation, but stays true to the original teaching of Jesus and the Apostles.

pax · **Posted:** Mon Feb 27, 2012 9:05 pm

Why do you guys constantly run down Cal's rabbit trails?

sammyjohn · **Posted:** Mon Feb 27, 2012 10:54 pm

It's true, the Catholic Church is at a disadvantage. It is the only religion that has ONLY ONE person with Infallibillity. Ask any two Protestant ministers a theological question on the Eucharist, Blessed Mother, Infallibility and Reconciliation and they won't know how to agree with each other.
Ask them a question requiring some thought before answering and the two ministers will give you three answers.

Kotton · **Posted:** Thu Apr 05, 2012 12:56 pm

pax wrote:

Why do you guys constantly run down Cal's rabbit trails?

We need the exercise. :fyi:

Mithrandir · **Posted:** Thu Apr 05, 2012 5:08 pm

Calvinist wrote:

Servant of Guadalupe wrote:

This is the real crux of the whole argument of Catholicism vs Protestantism.

1- Why on earth would you grant any authority to a collection of books that the Catholic Church compiled?

2- Why would you take the holy book that one religion created, and then use that book to create a new religion?

3- What makes you think that some religion that cannot possibly be older than the 16th century can better interpret the book of a Church that was born in the first century?

It is a historical fact that the Bible is a book that the Catholic Church put together. This is FACT. So:

4- If you believe in the Bible, why do you personally and actively oppose the organization that produced it?

Thank you in advance for your answers.

What makes you think that an organization cannot go wrong(?)

What makes you think that your "organization" didn't go wrong, or even had it right at all?

Calvinist' wrote:

...despite every evidence to the contrary? Just read the scripture...it doesn't take a great theologian to realize there are some contradictions and that the catholic church teaches contrary doctrines.

You keep saying that, yet you never prove it. At best you can only either produce evidence from silence or things that you call "contradictions" that really aren't; just merely paradoxes or false dichotomies on your part.

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