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 Post subject: Response to Luther's 95 theses.
PostPosted: Wed Apr 04, 2012 6:24 pm 
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Do we have a Catholic response to Luther's 95 theses? Going through all of them and discussing them.


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 Post subject: Re: Response to Luther's 95 theses.
PostPosted: Thu Apr 05, 2012 7:06 am 
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First, there wouldn't be a need to go through all of them. He only made a handful of points which were controversial and repeated them numerous times. He did not make a list of 95 problems he sees in the Church. But, I'll leave the question for someone else. I know there have been various Church documents dealing with this like Exscurge(sp?) Domine and maybe the Council of Trent.

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 Post subject: Re: Response to Luther's 95 theses.
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The 95 theses are widely misunderstood, they weren't actually 95 things that Luther believed, or 95 attacks upon the Church, or anything like that, they were 95 propositions that Luther thought were worthy of debate....and in this time period it was not uncommon for philosophers and theologians to act as 'devil's advocate' by coming up with arguments against the faith just to see if anyone could refute it...(we see this in St Thomas who always tries to offer three objections to every proposition before he states his own view)....so simply listing and distributing the theses would not necessarily be treated as anything threatening....

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 Post subject: Re: Response to Luther's 95 theses.
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Historically, the response was the Council of Trent.

However, a modern work by Dave Armstrong may be more readable: http://www.amazon.com/The-Catholic-Vers ... roduct_top

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 Post subject: Re: Response to Luther's 95 theses.
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anawim wrote:
Historically, the response was the Council of Trent.


Trent was a response to Protestantism, in general, but not to the 95 theses specifically.

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 Post subject: Re: Response to Luther's 95 theses.
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Doom wrote:
anawim wrote:
Historically, the response was the Council of Trent.


Trent was a response to Protestantism, in general, but not to the 95 theses specifically.


No, but Protestantism embodied all of what Luther protested.

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 Post subject: Re: Response to Luther's 95 theses.
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I just noticed that his username is the document I mentioned. That's a little odd. If you haven't ever read them, then I suggest you do. You'll find that a number of them are him agreeing with the Church about something and that a many of them are simply a prior one restated another way.

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 Post subject: Re: Response to Luther's 95 theses.
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I have read the document. I wanted to see if there were any modern day resources, perhaps a Catholic apologist who had written a response regarding the theses and could point out the theological problems with them.


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 Post subject: Re: Response to Luther's 95 theses.
PostPosted: Thu Apr 05, 2012 7:26 pm 
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ExsurgeDomine wrote:
I have read the document. I wanted to see if there were any modern day resources, perhaps a Catholic apologist who had written a response regarding the theses and could point out the theological problems with them.


Well the thing is the theses don't really have any theological content to criticize....far too much is made of them, they aren't important...

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